Konsort fin keel

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Konsort fin keel

Post by KJH 3107 » Fri May 11, 2018 7:18 am

Hi Folks, i need some advise on buying a Konsort. I've been looking for quite a while and have just seen a very nice Konsort Fin keel for sale. Have no idea how they compare to the bilge keel with regards to sailing performance or whether it is worth looking at a fin. I'll be on a marina berth and don't think I'll ever need to dry out. Any info or opinions would be much appreciated. Thanks KJH

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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by Jolly Roger » Fri May 11, 2018 11:26 am

Welcome to the WOA Forum and potentially becoming a Westerly Owner.

If you are going to be marina based and not planning to dry out, then always choose the fin as they sail faster. In the attached document you can see the suggested rating for the Konsort fin as 1129 for a bilge keel, and the adjustment to a fin is -50, making 1079. Or in percentage terms 4.4% faster.
https://www.westerly-owners.co.uk/pdfDo ... dicaps.pdf

This amount is only approximate and looking at the numbers for different propellers, these seem low between a folding and fixed 2 bladed propeller from my experience. The performance benefit from a folding propeller is far greater than suggested by the numbers. Everything is always relative to how you expect to use your boat and how good you are at setting the sails and holding a smooth course.

You will find the Konsort is a much liked design that was very roomy for a yacht of that period and it sailed better than average cruisers for that period.
Have a look at these links for more information.
https://www.westerly-owners.co.uk/boatR ... p?class=26
https://www.westerly-owners.co.uk/weste ... le=Konsort
https://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/we ... onsort.htm

To check out other Konsorts on the market check the WOA For Sale link.
https://www.westerly-owners.co.uk/classifieds.php
There is also a bilge keel version just about to come on the market here.
https://www.westerly-owners.co.uk/classifieds.php

Hope all this information is of help to you. Best of luck in buying a Konsort.
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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by TyroSailor » Fri May 11, 2018 11:32 am

Don't know about a Konsort, but buying my bilge-keeled Centaur was a good move. Its draught of only 3' (0.9m) allows me to go to places a deep-keeled boat couldn't, as well as using a drying (and therefore cheap) marina berth. And she can dry out on a beach or elsewhere to scrub, instead of paying to be lifted out. And once she is out, she's easier, and therefore cheaper, to support.
There is, of course, a cost in sailing performance (as Roger points out - hello Roger :) ), and the maxim that 'a gentleman never beats to windward' is, sadly, not true. Or maybe I'm not a gentleman...
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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by KJH 3107 » Sat May 12, 2018 8:12 am

Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Do you know when the Konsort bilge is coming on the market.
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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by Jolly Roger » Sat May 12, 2018 11:14 am

Sorry, only what it says on the web site. Have a word with Mr Wilson or his wife who run Yachtsnet. I have dealt with them and found them to be very knowledgeable and easy to deal with, despite not buying a boat from them. They only will sell boats in better than average condition, and what you see is what you get. Their photographs are some of the best in the industry and their archive photos are very helpful to many people researching yachts. He is also a good contributor to the YBW forums.

I only added the link for this boat as it may have been of interest. So give the Wilsons a call if you are potentially interested and see what they can tell you.
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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by KJH 3107 » Sat May 12, 2018 4:30 pm

Thanks Roger, I'm actually meeting him on Wednesday to veiw a Konsort. Looks in great condition for her age.
Thanks again for your help hopefully joining the WOA soon.
Thanks KJH

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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by Jolly Roger » Sat May 12, 2018 7:45 pm

You can join the WOA before you buy a Westerly, that's what I did. For £15.00 per year, it is a bargain. On joining you will get a book on the history of Westerly, which is interesting as it includes every model built. There are 2 magazines a year, a year book including a list of members boats and their contact details. The extra bonus is access on the web site to the technical articles previously published in past issues of the magazine. Other bonuses are discounts from suppliers, the best of them is the insurance scheme that has extra cover built in over their standard policy and the discount is greater than the WOA fee.
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Re: Konsort fin keel

Post by Big Andy » Sat May 12, 2018 8:43 pm

As a salesman Roger you're top draw, I read that and nearly paid again and I'm already a member. :lol: I do have to agree with every thing you said, it's win win, what's not to like.
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