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Anybody know what this is?

Post by Half Dozen » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:10 pm

New parents of Centaur which has been completely stripped and trying to figure out where it all goes...(apologies if incorrectly posted)

Ok running the risk of looking fairly dim but could anyone give some guidance on how the widget attached to the end of the roller reefing line might be related to forestay/roller reefing? This is exactly how we found the rigging when we bought the Centaur couple weeks ago and trying to figure out how it all goes back together - in the background you can just make out the Norseman fitting on end of forestay. Ps name of roller reefing on drum is 'Cooney' - anyone heard of it?
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Post by aquaplane » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:58 pm

I suspect that the bit with the rope through is in a safe place! ie. it was taken off and tied there so it didn't get lost.
It looks to be the bit that goes between the end of the forestay and the bow fitting. Why it wasn't left on the end of the forestay, or even on the bow I can't guess.
You seem to be missing a couple of pins, are they in a tupperware box somewhere or dish?
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Post by Half Dozen » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:18 pm

Thanks for feedback - thought that might be what it was for but checked again today when on boat and wouldn't attach to Norseman on forestay or bow roller as dimensions wrong. There is a bolt at end of bow roller which seems a little strange - only purpose I can guess at is to keep anchor chain in place on way up/down - otherwise the 'tang' bits on the widget would in theory be attached to the bolt - but no idea what for. Any chance it could be used to attach an additional forestay for storm jib?
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Re: Anybody know what this is?

Post by philipstevens » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:38 pm

The "bolt" should possibly be a "drop pin" to hold the anchor in after recovery.

The two flanges off your "widget", I would think, come either side of the centre/left part of the bow roller fitting, and be held in with a pin and a washer/split pin arrangement. The other end of your widget goes to the bottom of the roller reefing/furling unit.

Although it is not shown, is there another hole on the left side above the bolt holes?
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Post by Half Dozen » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:54 pm

There are only the three bolt holes on both sides of bow roller as would expect - sorry don't have suitable photo but could take one tomorrow. The two flanges would be very tight fit either side of bolt hole on bow roller where would expect forestay to be attached - other end of widget too wide to fit into Norseman fitting at end of forestay running through drum - would flanges be strong enough to hold forestay?
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Post by aquaplane » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:20 pm

My Centaur has a few holes, 4 to 6 but I couldn't be certain.
The forestay goes in the front one, the one with the marks on to show it's been used, it's a bit elongated too.
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Not the best pic as it wasn't taken to illustrate where the forestay goes, but you can see that there are several holes in the stem head fitting.
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Post by rhumlady » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:58 am

Maybe there was a shackle onto the stemhead fitting and the Norseman connected to that. Not a good idea but not uncommon either.
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Post by Half Dozen » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:32 pm

Thanks for all the feedback. Did wonder about shackle arrangement but wouldn't be too happy with that either! Without rigging the boat it's difficult to tell how the system works but it looks like the drum has had something that has sheared off the base - there is a D shaped ring still attached/welded on and this could be for attaching the widget perhaps? Think we may get basic standing rigging replaced which may shed some light...
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Post by smudger » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:36 pm

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Re: Anybody know what this is?

Post by philipstevens » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:59 am

Looking around Falmouth Marina laid-up boats, I found this Centaur.
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Re: Anybody know what this is?

Post by Half Dozen » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Thanks for pics - ours definitley doesn't have two plates from bottom of drum attaching either side of bow roller but clear that something has sheared off drum. Would there be enough space between plates for turnbuckle to attach forestay to bow roller do you think? There is no other other way of attaching as drum definitely revolves around forestay (is that normal? Seems like lot of stress on ss rigging). Thanks again for all helpful replies..
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